A: Mind is not knowing (perception). Only when nama (labels) creating four components together it starts building mind. To know, is not to think. Since it is not the act of thinking then it is not mind.
Can we experience things only by using physical body, not the mind (ideas, feelings, apperception, consciousness)? According to Buddha, we can.
"Herein, Bahiya, you should train yourself thus: 'In the seen will be merely what is seen; in the heard will be merely what is heard; in the sensed will be merely what is sensed; in the cognized will be merely what is cognized.' In this way you should train yourself, Bahiya."
Furthermore Buddha said, that by doing that we are not Emptiness, we are not Forms, and we even not stay as Dhammakaya.
"When Bahiya, you are not 'in that, ' then, Bahiya, you will be neither here nor beyond nor in between the two. Just this is the end of suffering."
By doing that one is a Buddha.
"Where neither water nor yet earth
Nor fire nor air gain a foothold,
There gleam no stars, no sun sheds light,
There shines no moon, yet there no darkness reigns.
When a sage, a brahman, has come to know this
For himself through his own wisdom,
Then he is freed from form and formless.
Freed from pleasure and from pain."
Bahiya Sutta explains about the third or final practice of buddhism which called mokuso/intensive meditation of Israel Vajrayana (two last stages of meditation, two holy jhanas), that ceasing all proliferation through the 6 doors of Dhamma:
1. Eye (seeing), to just experience without responding with ideas feelings apperception consciousness.
2. Ear (hearing), to just experience without responding with ideas feelings apperception consciousness.
3. Nose (sensing), to just experience without responding with ideas feelings apperception consciousness.
4. Tongue (tasting), to just experience without responding with ideas feelings apperception consciousness.
5. Body (touching), to just experience without responding with ideas feelings apperception consciousness.
6. Pineal gland (perceiving), to just experience without responding with ideas feelings apperception consciousness.
Jhana 9: Sannavedayitanirodha.
Jhana 10: Nibbana.
First buddhism practice: Vipassana Bhavana, Second: Samatha Bhavana, Third/Final: Mokuso.
Samatha bhavana and mokuso is different because samatha bhavana do arupa jhanas and holy jhanas, while mokuso only the act of doing holy (lokuttara) jhanas. It is not satipatthana, it is not kammathana, it is both in one package, the jhana 9 working only.
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